Csturdiv From United States, joined Aug 2005, 747 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5812 times:
Just saw a story on the WGN morning news here in Chicago and they said that VX is looking for 8 daily flights and 2 gates for ORD. Didn't really have any timetable though of when they wanted to fly. And as usual, there was something wrong that only the true airplane nerds would spot. They got the Virgin America logo right, but the plane used in the graphic looked like a TWA B747.
Cubsrule From United States, joined May 2004, 7262 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5736 times:
Quoting Csturdiv (Thread starter): Just saw a story on the WGN morning news here in Chicago and they said that VX is looking for 8 daily flights and 2 gates for ORD.
Why would they need 2 gates for 8 flights?
FWIW, this isn't a huge shock... they could have started MDW service yesterday had they been interested.
STLGph From United States, joined Oct 2004, 7734 posts, RR: 31 Reply 3, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5647 times:
Quoting Csturdiv (Thread starter): but the plane used in the graphic looked like a TWA B747.
OTS shoulder graphics (over the shoulder) are only available "en masse" bulk from licensed media services. It's a generic use ... and for good legal reason.
Luv2cattlecall From United States, joined Sep 2007, 702 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5461 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5): Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
Why would they need 2 gates for 8 flights?
Gotta keep that CASM high
By 8 flights, does that mean 4 inbound, 4 outbound, for a total of 4 turnovers? If so, keeping the CASM high is the only reason that begins to make sense!
GARUDAROD From United States, joined Apr 2000, 1147 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5428 times:
If you read the article, it says they plan on 4 flights to SFO and 4 flights to LAX. That would be
8pairs of slots or one for each arrival and departure.
United1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1263 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5222 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 11): Not quite yet... one of two things is going to happen:
1) VX winds up in Terminal 5 (another excellent way to pad the old CASM) and has a really lousy schedule since there's no room there in the afternoon
2) VX doesn't start service due to a lack of gates.
I was going to say, last time I checked there were no open gates at ORD, the only way I can see them getting any is if DL/NW consolidate in L otherwise ORD is pretty much full up for gates. T5 might be there only option if they want to fly to ORD bad enough.
Mayor From United States, joined Mar 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5220 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 12): I was going to say, last time I checked there were no open gates at ORD, the only way I can see them getting any is if DL/NW consolidate in L otherwise ORD is pretty much full up for gates. T5 might be there only option if they want to fly to ORD bad enough.
May seem like a stupid question....been awhile since I've been there but which terminal is T5 at ORD?
Quoting United1 (Reply 12): I was going to say, last time I checked there were no open gates at ORD, the only way I can see them getting any is if DL/NW consolidate in L otherwise ORD is pretty much full up for gates.
I don't think DL/NW could fit in L (at least at their current size). You might see CO and DL switch gates, and there might be a gate or two for VX in that shuffle, though.
United1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1263 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5187 times:
Quoting Mayor (Reply 13): May seem like a stupid question....been awhile since I've been there but which terminal is T5 at ORD?
Not a stupid question at all T5 is the international terminal, its the only one of the 4 the terminals that has common use gates as well. (well T2 might have 1 common use gate but I thought US had grabbed that one)
United1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1263 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5161 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14): I don't think DL/NW could fit in L (at least at their current size). You might see CO and DL switch gates, and there might be a gate or two for VX in that shuffle, though.
hmmmm that could work especially is there is an AA/CO alliance, my only question is are NWs and COs gates in T2 sub-leased from another airline?
Cubsrule From United States, joined May 2004, 7262 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5152 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 15): (well T2 might have 1 common use gate but I thought US had grabbed that one)
US is the only one using E7, though I'm not sure what the lease status is. US definitely needs it, though. When HP was across the hall, NW and Privatair used it, and UA may have used it occasionally too.
Thanks.....I had no idea they could use the int'l terminal for any domestic flights.
When I worked at ORD, where T5 is was the cargo area. I think DL is the only holdout that still has a cargo building in that area but even they are planning to move to the southside, off Irving Park Rd. with all the rest. Or at least they were when they had money.
Just as an aside, before we had our cargo building (DL) built, we worked out of one end of the Flying Tigers building and then we got kicked out of there and had to move our outbound operation to the cargo building where PanAm, NW and AZ was. Our inbound was across the street from where the current cargo building was.
We still managed to handle 5mil pounds inbound and 5mil pounds outbound a month out of those locations.
Davescj From United States, joined Jun 2007, 1251 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5091 times:
Quoting Mayor (Reply 19): I had no idea they could use the int'l terminal for any domestic flights.
I think Spirit is in T5 also. But that said, Midway wouldn't be an all bad choice for VX. It would probably be able to get gates, and it does have easy access to the city.
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